is the Director of Operations for Gardex Chemicals Ltd. based in the Toronto home office. He has been involved in the pest control industry for more than 30 years. Prior to his 13 years with Gardex, Robert held numerous management positions with ICI/Zeneca Agricultural Products in the United States. With a Bachelor of Science degree in Biology and Horticulture, Robert brings both education and experience needed to help Gardex customers in all facets of their business.
So the police respond to an odor complaint, Apartment 3G in the THC apartment complex off Bloor.
Upon arrival, they immediately know the problem, a corpse must be behind the cause, and behind the door to Apartment 3G.
Luckily enough they were being accompanied by that famous Canadian detective, JB “Gord” Fletcher (no relationship).
And sure enough, after kicking in the door there lies the corpse of a man sitting in his easy chair, the TV on to the latest CSINCISLAWSVU episode.
Dead as a door nail.
Mysterious circumstances, or just a plain old boring natural death?
So brilliant JB sums up the situation:
“400 pound man, mid-fifties. Ashtray full of Camel butts, but he smoked alone. Last meal was a party pizza, extra cheese, topped up with a 48 ounce slushy and a bag of cheetahs. Face has that orange color you see in cheetah addicts. Beer cans everywhere, Coors Lite thank god. Surgical tube pulled tight on one arm, but no needle. Bottle of nitro, but not enough for a terrorist attack. Bad heart?”
“What do think the cause of death to be?” queries JB to his escorts.
Young rookie (are there ever old rookies?) surmises;
“This one’s too obvious. Obese, addicted, alcoholic smoker with a bad ticker choked on a cheetah while going through withdrawal”.
“I second that” chimed in the old pro.
“Aha and au contraire” cried JB. “On the surface it may look like an easy call but, you missed a few fine points. If you look closely at the pizza box you’ll see the 3rd leg of a cockroach, obviously an Oriental nymph. My guess 2nd instar.
“Secondly, what appears to be injection sites on his arms are actually bed bug bites.”
“Thirdly, if you look at your white socks you’ll see they are now covered in fleas.”
“And lastly, sitting on his windowsill is a can of BuGBuster Blaster”.
“So it’s pretty obvious…
Gotta be the pesticide!”
Here’s the bare facts:
I believe the Industry has been given a false sense of comfort on the Evo Express and tampering. Is the Evo 100% safe in preventing secondary poisoning? Nope.
The other problem is we only have bromadiolone to use outdoors. (except in underground burrows which is considered “indoors”)
Of the 2 – 3 bromadiolone products available, it appears Resolv has a very high attraction rate to rats. BUT…this seems to be true for all rodents found in the woods, parks or backyards.
Mice, rats, chipmunks and squirrels. Little critters with very sharp teeth.
If you use a highly attractive bait in any plastic station, you may have secondary poisoning. Always? Of course not.
Can you give a 100% guarantee this will never ever happen though? Nope.
If you put a T-rex in an Evo then no problems right? Wrong. If you’ve never seen a squirrel in a T-rex you haven’t been around long enough.
But you then have the problem of daily inspections and re-setting traps.
Do we prepare ourselves for any situation? Nope.
This is where we lack in our planning – the what if’s. And being prepared for worse case scenarios. Even if it never happens.
How many of us know what to say to the homeowner if there’s a dead squirrel in the yard? Does it happen? Maybe one in a million, but how do you address?
Does anyone have the information Lipha provides on secondary poisoning always on hand? A copy in their truck? What to do and how to react? Poison control center numbers?
If you prepare for the Worse case scenario, you prepared for anything.
I’ve beat this dead horse before, until it turned into horse jerky, but a word from the wise (me!)
Tamper Proof – nothing can get inside (like my brain)
Tamper Resistant – kinda holds ’em back (like my diet)
Tamper Evident – red flag goes up once it’s been tampered with (like my hand in the cookie jar)
I really believe that someone (the name doesn’t ring a BELL) did such a good job of fear-mongering and confusing the regulations with marketing that PMP’s truly believe that if you use an Evo Express you have nothing to fear on non-targets getting at the bait.
“But Bobby baby…..it’s Tier 1!”
But what the hell does that mean??? Entrust our Ottawa government types to write mis-leading legislation. Tier 1 in Canada applies to Domestic products, BUT they included the language on all Commercial labels.
Through it all though, the onus lies on one person and one person only.
You. The individual who puts the bait and stations out. Neither Bell or Lipha will jump in.
Read the top of the station: Tamper Resistant
Now, add to that a regulation that only allows bromadiolone to be used outdoors, and you have two options: Contrac Blok or the new and exciting Resolv! (forget Maki – everyone else has – even the supplier)
BUT….Resolv is so attractive to rodents it might even attract chippies (I’m turning Canadian), squirrels and beavers (hey government inspectors…this is humor in poor taste remember).
So imagine a highly attractive bait in an indestructible bait station. Perfect right????
So the simple moral of this story???
You need to think, and think hard, on how and where you use a bait, and what you put it in.
Is there a total squirrel/chippie/beaver tamper free option? Sure, let the rats have their freedom!
Just read this and either shake your head, laugh, say WTF or maybe get on the phone to your MP and ask why your tax dollars are going to waste.
June 24th: the PMRA issues the PRVD2017-03, pretty well eliminating lambda-cyhalothrin uses in all crops, and some of our structural uses. Primarily residential indoors and turf.
August 23rd: the PMRA issues a new and improved label for Demand CS, with more insects, more sites, and better language on some of the uses.
Does this seem like a logical move to you? I can see, well kinda, well – no I can’t understand why this wasn’t done in some sort of coordination between Cubicle A and Cubicle B.
The PMRA Giveth, and the PMRA taketh away.
In reviewing the data of a pesticide within the cyclical guidelines of the PCP Act, I decided to look at the maximum rates, and maximum allowable applications to determine the potential exposure levels possible.
And to be on the safe side I take the evidence (rat and mouse studies) and apply a 300 fold safety factor. That’s what I’m putting in my report.
So that’s 10 fold for intra-species differences (one rat might be different than another) and another 10 fold for inter-species differences (humans ain’t like rats) then another 10 fold for the little kiddies (cuz their parents let them lick the floor).
So 300 fold the safety level….
But wait… 10 x 10 x 10….doesn’t that equal 1000 fold safety level? Oh, I can say 300 fold, then change the math to fit my desired outcome.
So instead of meeting the criteria of less than 1 per million incidences of a potential carcinogenic effect, I’ve changed the hurdle rate to one per billion chances of contracting (that’s not the right word) cancer from this product.
1,000 x 1,000,000. Do the math.
So in the entire human population of 7 billion, there may be a chance that 7 people develop cancer due to direct exposure to this product.
Perfect, I ban those products or uses to save those people. I am good.
What’s that? What about other benefits?
Lyme disease, West Nile, asthma, Zika, malaria. Bed bugs and the effect on the psyche of people living with them. Cockroaches sharing your food, which many people can’t afford. Stored product pests completely ruining grains and flour, food and feed.
And all the other benefits that product brings…
I still ban it to save those 7 people. I am good.
Zero use means zero risk correct?
Hey buddy, can ya’ spare a smoke? Gotta ponder this.
If you’ve read through my last rant (okay I deleted the last one) PMRA is planning on eliminating one of the best tools we’ve had in this industry for quite some time…Demand CS.
“Potential of risks of concern”
What kind of political mumbo jumbo BS is that? ANYTHING has a potential of risk of concern!!!
“Don’t run with scissors”!
NO – just eliminate scissors!
“Stick a needle in your eye”
NO – ban sewing for gosh sakes! Gosh? I’m getting too nice.
This is based on bad data or misuse of data.
The PMRA believes you do 4 treatments per year in every house in Canada and for every year in existence!
We would love that!!!!
And besides the 4 treatments per year, they are using application methods that are not on the label.
PMRA – ALWAYS READ AND FOLLOW LABEL DIRECTIONS!!!
Nearly all of the data cited comes from the USEPA or the USDA.
Out of 72 some studies, only 28 have been conducted AFTER they registered the product in 2004. And of all the new data the only ones dealing with toxicity were done for a tox package for registration. Dermal and oral, and one on a lymph node.
But none of these showed any results that would call for elimination of the product.
The USEPA has Demand (lambda-cyhalothrin) listed as a Group D carcinogen. There is no data to support the classification as a carcinogen, nor enough to classify it as not being a carcinogen.
But with the removal of the product we are back to using a Group C carcinogen…permethrin. This group is classified as “likely to cause cancer in humans”
So we lose a great product in favor of two that have a worse tox profile and a greater risk of being carcinogenic???
What the hell is the problem here?
YOU NEED TO COMMENT – email, write, call
They’ve lost complete control of their senses.
I’m inserting a section of the Product Re-evaluation Document specifically covering Demand CS . The PMRA is proposing elimination of all indoor residential uses of the product.
“The following postapplication scenarios were assessed: application for bedbugs, band and spot application, and crack and crevice application. Both cancer and non-cancer risks of concern were identified for all lifestages from dermal exposure for all scenarios except crack and crevice application. Both cancer and non-cancer risks of concern were identified for children from incidental oral exposure for all scenarios including crack and crevice application. Revised label directions are proposed to specify that crack and crevice applications are only permitted in non-residential areas.”
Their “cancer and non-cancer risks of concern” are not scientifically based, and in generally unfounded. They are stating a “concern” about children having an oral exposure to the product, even when applied in a crack and crevice application, under box springs or behind a refrigerator.
The Industry needs your help now…YOU ARE THE INDUSTRY!
There is a 90 day comment period on the proposed changes and YOU NEED TO COMMENT.
Read through the whole executive summary (linked below) and comment. Always refer to PRVD2017-03
Here’s where to comment:
And why the regulators don’t get this….(last half of my title).
I like the word regulators. Makes it sound like you’re back in the days of prohibition…revenuers and regulators. Fits.
The number one, numero uno, # 1 rule of Pest Management?????
KEEP THEM OUT TO START WITH!
IPM starts with exclusion. A pest, or invasive species, isn’t a pest until it has actually invaded someone’s space or property, water or food source, and reduces the quality of life overall.
Isn’t that too simple?
BUT (did you sense that coming?) we seem to be forgetting that fact when we look at labeling that continues to be approved by PMRA.
First case in point was the ruling on rodenticides and restricting the only registered and allowable out door registration to bromadiolone. One active ingredient out of the 5 -6 registered.
And what happens when you feed one active ingredient continually to a population, where 5% may survive from a lethal dose? And a population that can drop new pups like Putin drops f-bombs on the Ukraine?
Like the French in WWII.
I’ve been reading through the re-evaluation again, and still don’t believe they had enough data to restrict the use of ALL the other actives outdoors.
Case in point #2. A new Bayer product. And I’m not picking on Bayer, because they have been getting the short stick on all their labels lately.
Think of the lowly house fly, just the one that isn’t inside your customers restaurant. But he’s hoping to get inside your customers restaurant. He’s not across town getting his nails done (that’s weird) or hanging at the track with boyz (yeah I’m ghetto cool).
He’s hanging right outside that restaurant waiting for that door to open.
14 seconds to make the egress from garbage to filet mignon.
The fly is probably sitting on the door frame…outside…
So logic…what a word…logic would dictate you would want to use the new Fly Spot…where? C’mon people. Think.
Here’s a new bait/pesticide combo that probably works great, with an indoor registration only. Unless you count dumpsters, which may help.
A simple application of an attractant with a rapid contact used outside, like around the door frame where The Fly (Jeff Goldblum version) is sitting waiting, would seem to be the logical choice.
But there’s that word again.
One question though: Does it make sense to use more pesticides indoors than out?
Give me exclusion any day.
These trade concessions, tariffs, duties and “trade deficits” debates just continue to amaze, daze and confuse me.
First off I have to admit I’m simple minded. Easily confused my wife says.
BUT…now Canada is upset with the EU on the price of cheese coming into the country. It will destroy the Quebec cheese industry. No more Oka! (I hate that friggin’ commercial anyway)
And NAFTA looms overhead like a big stick ready to come crashing down…a big stick of soft wood lumber!
So does anyone else see the “weirdness” of all this?
One country is best at producing cheese, cheaper and just as good.
One country is best at growing timber, since half the country is forest.
And the USA can’t do much of anything, besides consuming goods. Oh, and digging up coal. But they are determined to protect their foresters.
Philadelphia Creme Cheese though!
It would seem to me that if the governments kept their noses and MP’s and Senators out of it, and the money out of their own pockets, this would sort itself out? Granted some people would have to shift their way a earning a buck.
If I can’t grow lumber at a cheaper price than my neighbor (competitor) maybe I should find a means to do it better…or stick to the markets where I excel?
Or follow the government’s brilliant ideas, like giving away cheese to reduce supply and drive prices back up.
Global economy with a village mentality.
And no, I’m not the village idiot!
After re-reading my last post, and my 2 step solution to prevent global annihilation, I developed a simple plan to eliminate the largest contributor to global warming, CO2 emissions and pollution by eliminating the gas powered auto. That one was simple.
But how to curb population growth? We can’t enact a “Hand Maidens Tale” (no I’m not watching a girly show). Or try the Chinese method. Maybe a lottery?
No, I’ve accepted the fact that the easiest, quickest way to reduce the population is by going to war.
Or a maybe plague! We’d make some money with a plague of locusts now wouldn’t we! Or is that on the label? Check with the PMRA.
But I’m leaning towards war…
And not just a skirmish in some god forsaken place in the desert (I do feel for those people living in an inhospitable land, and centuries of fighting over nothing except whose religion is right).
I’m talking full blown nuclear disaster.
Face it, we can’t argue or agree to that….ridiculous I know. But when the livable area of Earth starts to diminish due to climate change, pollution, over crowding and poverty something is going to snap. And someone will push the button.
But what will really happen is the population will reach a point that more people will live in poverty, low health care standards, horrible housing and sanitation, and more crowding. Look at the slums in Rio, or Cairo.
Rats, Roaches, Filth…sounds like places in Toronto…
Someone in some godforsaken little hut will develop a “super bug” and I’m not talking insects. And we’ll see large scale disaster. AIDS, West Nile, SARS, Ebola, Zika…one of these will develop we can’t find a cure for. A new strain of influenza….
And it will move across the planet swiftly. Sounds pretty ominous. It will be.
Better than a bomb? Guess it depends on whose side you on.
But it’s not all doom and gloom! I did come up with a fix for the pollution problem and global warming.
Get rid of the gas powered vehicles. Period. (look at what that does to the power shift in the world by cutting gasoline consumption by 90%).
The CO2 emissions are the leading cause of pollution and global warming. Might not be true, but now it is cuz I typed it!
So why are we divesting and diverting all of our efforts to something else??? Really. We have too many “causes”. Pink ribbons and yellow flags and elastic wrist bands in every color of the rainbow. Save the Rainbows even!
Face it, if the tree huggers and major communities of the world got together and implemented an “electric” only policy, it could very well happen. Take all those tree hugger riches aimed at saving the spotted owl, the spotted ocelot, the spotted Tasmanian sparrow and the drug addict I spotted on the street, and put it to this one cause.
Simply phase it in over 10 years by issuing new tags to an increasingly higher % of electrics only. Getting to the point to where all tags are for electric only.
So you can’t drive 1200 miles in 10 hours to see Grandma. She doesn’t want you to bother her anyway! She’s got bingo booked until she wins and dies.
No gasoline powered car over 10 years old would be issued a tag…voila!
I’ve almost saved the Planet!
Just gotta work on that population thingy….suggestions anyone?
But I’ve got an idea….